50 years ago. >> rose: we've made progress. >> we've made a lot of progress. back in 1963 i saw the signs that said white waiting, calendared waiting, white men, calendared women. those signs are gone. we passed a civil rights bill. we passed the voting rights act. the fair housing act. and when people said to me nothing had changed, i said come and walk in my shoes. and people-- our children and their children won't see those signs. the only place they will see those signs are in a book, in a museum, on a video. if someone had told me back in 1963, 50 years ago, that i would live to see an african american as president of the united states, i would say, "you're crazy. you must be living in another world." >> rose: let me move to that, 2008, november, barack obama, the first black american elect elected. what did it mean, tell me?